Clinton still would have a hard time overcoming Barack Obama’s?
Clinton still would have a hard time overcoming Barack Obama’s pledged delegate lead. In fact, her task got even harder because even though she won Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island Tuesday night, she didn’t do much to close the delegate gap — and with every contest that passes, the number up for grabs drops.
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Filed on Sunday, July 10th, 2011 under Barack Obama FAQ
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Yes, she’ll have a hard time, for even she wins but not big enough so
Neither of them will have the amount needed.
somehow clinton is going to get the nomination
Correct, she will have a hard time to gain real momentum.
I think Hillary’s campaign is in serious trouble.
You are correct, she failed to close the delegate gap yesterday. She closed the gap by less 10 delegates and needed to close it by 50-60 to have a real shot.
Obama may have lost 3 of the 4 contests, but didn’t lose Texas by much and if he overwhelmingly wins the caucus, could have more delegates than Hillary in the long run, from that state.
She wont overcome pledged delegate lead. She can however overcome the delegate difference overall. That will cause some stir, but the chances of Obama getting the popular vote are not very good either and that could likewise cause a stir if he got the nomination despite having less popular votes.The long term solution is to revamp the primary process entirely, but that cant be done this election.
Nope. That’s going to change. They’re both going to the convention, neither will lock up the nomination before then. It will come down to the supers, and Hillary will get some of the supers back, that went over to the Obama side. He’s 100 ahead in delegates, but she’ll narrow that gap. PA is a BIG one, and she’s got it.
Correct
neither will get it!
she is a crook trying to get super delegates and if she looses her mission is tale Obama with her the poltics of personal destruction
A month ago I asserted that she will find a way and I’ll be darned if she just might. My guess is that the Clinton campaign will sue the DNC for Florida and Michigan, and some friendly judge somewhere will “uphold the will of the voters” or some other jargon by allowing their delegates to count. Advantage=Hillary.
I think that we are starting to get a clearer picture as to what is going on behind the scenes of the Dem party. There are a lot of people who are sitting on the fence who want to see these two run together. Many superdelegates fall in this camp. These people are not shutting the door on Hillary potentially stealing the election because that is the only way they can get what they want — what they consider a “dream ticket”.
A clinton/Obama ticket or Obama/Clinton ticket is a totally insane idea. Obama gets the Dem votes no matter which Dem VP he chooses. Adding Hillary adds all of her negatives and no positives. Hillary on the ticket guarantees that Evangelicals vote for McCain and costs Obama a ton of Indy support. No Hillary and those Evangelical folks likely protest the McCain nomination.
Obama/Clinton and Clinton/Obama are surefire losing tickets vs. McCain and almost any VP candidate.
Obama would NEVER chose Hillary to be his VP, because Hillary has gone nuclear on him. Can you imagine Obama debating McCain and McCain saying, “Your own VP says you are not ready to be president. Your own VP says I am a better presidential candidate than you.”
Hillary shut the door on herself.
This is why this crowd doesn’t want Obama to win. They do see that.
Hillary on the otherhand would NEED to pick Obama as her VP to be viable. She can’t win if the party pisses off everyone who voted for Obama (blacks and Indys) by jobbing him. The only way she could be viable is to bring Obama on as VP to seal the scism the stealing of the nomination would create.
There is a crazy strain of Dem who think that 2 strong candidates are better than one, regardless of what those two candidate believe and how they act. These are people who should not be given bleach and vinegar with a mop and told to clean the floor. They don’t see the obvious problems with the ticket.
If Obama flatly says that will not occur, these people will get of their crazyland cloud and look at things realistically. We want to win — not keep both camps moderately happy for 6 months.
Especially with Miss and Wyoming coming up, which will be good for Obama. I do believe the DNC have to get involved a month before the convention, because you know Hillary will not take the high road.
Someone is feeding you hype. The Clinton machine runs the democratic party. The only thing that can change that is a Barach rebellion in which he swamped her at the polls and states and delegate lead. I don’t think it will happen. I think the party bosses have made up their mind and that Clinton supporters are being misled.I would love to see Clinton supporters vote logically. However, with all politicians nothing is done logically.
What happens if you consider Florida and Michigan. Can we really ignore these two states?
What happens if you eliminate all the repub votes for Obama, that are only anti-Hillary votes?
Obama’s wins are primarily in red states that he will not win in the general election, and caucus states where the democratic machine, which is in favor of Obama, was able to control the outcome.
Rhode Island was one of the few states where Repubs were not able to vote for the democratic nominee, only democrats and dependents, and Hillary blew Obama out of the water. This shows that Rhode Island is the real bell weather.
If only democrats and independents are counted, as it should be, Hillary would have wrapped up this race long ago. Are we really going to let the repubs choose the democratic candidate again?
If Hillary and Obama join forces and go after McCain, they could be stronger together, while waiting for the party convention to choose the winner.
At the same time, they would force the repub attack machine to try and go after both democratic candidates at the same time, which would greatly undermine the repub attack machine.
The best chance for democrats at this time is let this be decided at the convention. When, if Hillary and Obama start working together in going after McCain, they can come up with a peaceful solution that keeps the party united.
As democrats, are we in to win this thing or not?